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maljosselection
19th April 2008, 12:21 PM
Yes we want buyers but this is probally the worst time for some years for buyers any where.Until the media stop telling everyone how bad it is,we just have to wait. Sales have crashed on the other side. So how do we get them to come here rather then back to the tried and tested? I push ebid when ever I can but the response is very negative. Sort of response I get
"why bother its all on ebay,don't need to look elsewhere."

This_year
19th April 2008, 01:41 PM
"why bother its all on ebay,don't need to look elsewhere." mmh, often true, but these people will change their tune.

The buyers on the dark side will find out how lovely it is, when sellers push up the prices to cover the high listing fees and sellers of collectable items start to vanish and list here.

Feebay think that they are unbeatbale, but all they are doing is changing into an overpriced retail outlet dominated by powesellers that sell stuff that you can find in a pound shop.

merlin
19th April 2008, 01:44 PM
"why bother its all on ebay,don't need to look elsewhere." mmh, often true, but these people will change their tune.

The buyers on the dark side will find out how lovely it is, when sellers push up the prices to cover the high listing fees and sellers of collectable items start to vanish and list here.

Feebay think that they are unbeatbale, but all they are doing is changing into an overpriced retail outlet dominated by powesellers that sell stuff that you can find in a pound shop.

then charge you £1.99 postage on top lol

BLOXBOOKS
19th April 2008, 02:31 PM
then charge you £1.99 postage on top lol
Yes, I have seen P&P 50p to £2.00 more expensive for identical items on the other site and lookng accross other venues that cost can go upto £3.00 for postage.
Many eBid sellers beat the compititon on price and P&P cost, even with BIN listings many price beat other places, maybe from time to time its possible to find the odd bargain when compairing price but has sellers create bigger inventories and wider choice it is getting much harder for the compitition to keep up with prices, there may be a lower str and things may be listed for longer but with better margins and no crippling monthly fees eBid will grow bigger and better with a solid foundation under our stores we can go higher.

Being positive and pushing forward is the best advert we have to keep momentum, some negative comments appear and I am sure when the smoke clears and we read inbetween the line-----

"Whats wrong with this site?:mad: it dont work, I have been selling on another site for the past 30 years, I know I wuz a little astroid at one time but soon became a big hot star then I went super nova and wuz a mighty blackhole that suck in all matter and did a million sales a second and got so dense I went bang and became a brand new universe that only I inhabit, so whats wrong here dont they use TeleEmpothatic software, I thought this site was so advanced it could read my thoughts and I could make all my listing just by looking at the pc and thinking about it...well I tried and it didnt work, and I know its not my faut cos my head doctor said my brain was made from the most dense material he had ever seen... i bet none of you can beat that...ooops it minght be working cos I know your answers, well dont bother answering unless ya know about quantum mechanics.....and if you do can you explain it to me"

All the negative things we may read are not always what they seem.:D

maljosselection
19th April 2008, 03:14 PM
Good answers. I know you will find cheaper this side but it's all those other side buyers that we have to convince. How do you do that when they won't even look!!
Bloxbooks my doc's given up on me.

GilfidianRudge
19th April 2008, 03:32 PM
How do you do that when they won't even look!!


It certainly needs work maljos I think you have to get your self set up with a situation whereby you can e-mail existing £b*y customers with a quick and easy link to an e-bid auction that:-

(a) you think should interest them going on past purchasing record on feedback
and (b) that's cheaper than they can generally find on £b*y - using the (virtual) lack of fees on here to hopefully give you an edge

When spoon fed an easy link like that most folks will have a nosey....and if the listing has been 'targeted' well enough they might just take things further.

The beauty of it is you can list as many of these 'tempters' as you like and if they don't get a bite you haven't lost anything in trying.

As for bloxbooks last post...... really enjoyed reading that.:D

QCPOTS
19th April 2008, 03:37 PM
Yes we want buyers but this is probally the worst time for some years for buyers any where.Until the media stop telling everyone how bad it is,we just have to wait. Sales have crashed on the other side. So how do we get them to come here rather then back to the tried and tested? I push ebid when ever I can but the response is very negative. Sort of response I get
"why bother its all on ebay,don't need to look elsewhere."

how about, instead of telling us we need buyers,,

come back here and tell us how many items you have bought,

LEAD BY EXAMPLE once you start you will find others follow,

theres a lot of my collectables have price on them that have been exceeded on feebay,

infact some have been bought here and sold there at a good profit,

NOW who you Sympathise, the seller here, or the buyer over there

FOR NOT LOOKING HERE BEFORE BUYING,????,

madelaine
19th April 2008, 04:23 PM
There are more buyers here every day. This month is just as good as February and March have been. I'm still selling in the other place and telling every buyer about eBid.

However, I really should leave this thread and go and post some more stuff promoting ebid elsewhere... byeee!

Cushtydeals
19th April 2008, 04:29 PM
I think feebay has brainwashed most of its buyers into thinking they are secure.
Like has been said the fees are going through the roof.

HannaHolly
19th April 2008, 04:34 PM
Yes we want buyers but this is probally the worst time for some years for buyers any where.Until the media stop telling everyone how bad it is,we just have to wait. Sales have crashed on the other side. So how do we get them to come here rather then back to the tried and tested? I push ebid when ever I can but the response is very negative. Sort of response I get
"why bother its all on ebay,don't need to look elsewhere."

Luckily more and more buyers start looking for items they want by doing a google seach- which can result in them finding an ebid item, and joining the site to buy it :D I know this is working because i am making more sales to more and more new buyers :)

Cushtydeals
19th April 2008, 04:39 PM
Luckily more and more buyers start looking for items they want by doing a google seach- which can result in them finding an ebid item, and joining the site to buy it :D I know this is working because i am making more sales to more and more new buyers :)

Good point.
A Google search turned up in my visitors panel today.
1/ was my website
2/ was my shop on ebid

This_year
19th April 2008, 04:52 PM
"why bother its all on ebay,don't need to look elsewhere."

I don't think it is quite so. Shopping on feebay is a little bit like doing all your weekly shopping from a corner shop and paying their high prices because you can't be bothered to go to the supermarket on the other side of town. Any experienced collector or someone looking for things that are rare and hard to find will know that you can't get it from just one single source. Before feebay came we relied on car boot sales jumble sales etc but in actual fact these are still the cheapest and best places to buy bargains as there is less competition between buyers. That is where ebid is handy and I think will get its own specialised market in hobby selling.

I first joined ebid 6 years ago when I found a rare item listed at 99p, if it had sold on the dark side it would have sold for over £10. therefore that taught me a lesson that I needed to expand my search across all auction sites and not just feebay.

ThePatchDog
19th April 2008, 05:50 PM
I try use my eBay listings to try entice buyers here to get it for less when they ask me a question about getting a price break. It has only worked once but I will get my technique down and more will come. I will also be ding a lot more listing here in the future and the first place I check before I buy is eBid. Only won a couple items but I am sure that will grow as listings grow.

One thing to remember, no other site has as many sales as eBay does, but this site has the most potential to top them in a couple of years if we all stick together and help it grow.

Cocksparrer
19th April 2008, 06:07 PM
Yes we want buyers but this is probally the worst time for some years for buyers any where.Until the media stop telling everyone how bad it is,we just have to wait. Sales have crashed on the other side. So how do we get them to come here rather then back to the tried and tested? I push ebid when ever I can but the response is very negative. Sort of response I get
"why bother its all on ebay,don't need to look elsewhere."

If you are or were a seller on the other side, youd go to your peepla address and collect the emails from buyers & sellers and you would send them the link to ebid. simple innit ;)

mainlypostcards
19th April 2008, 07:39 PM
One thing to remember, no other site has as many sales as eBay does, but this site has the most potential to top them in a couple of years if we all stick together and help it grow.

Well said Patch.
The way that site is going it will soon be new items on bin only by the huge powersellers.
The sellers of collectables will disappear and many have found their way here - and so have some of their buyers.
I sell postcards, i.e low value items. At least 3 of my previous customers have joined Ebid and one of them started off by buying about 30+ items from one of my "competitors".
If we all do our bit in letting our past customers know where we are, not only us will benefit, but also others who sell in the same categories.

felinefelon
19th April 2008, 08:51 PM
I'm fairly new, over from the darkside, not bought anything yet but I have and do search here first for anything I need. Sadly I've just not found it yet but I will eventually!

Cocksparrer
19th April 2008, 09:32 PM
I'm fairly new, over from the darkside, not bought anything yet but I have and do search here first for anything I need. Sadly I've just not found it yet but I will eventually!

What you after, let some of us know and maybe somebody who deals with that item, can get it for you. :) Dont go over there without enquiring over here in case a seller does have it, but not yet listed. Or a seller can get hold of it and you wont be over charged.

kengillam
19th April 2008, 11:00 PM
Another thing is, how many are still listing on the Darkside as well, whilst waiting for things to really get going here. Is now the time to really knock the Darkside listings on the head, a big drop there and a big increase here will help encourage folk to quit the place. Remember the Boycott starts on 1st May could be a good time for action.

ThePatchDog
19th April 2008, 11:33 PM
My darkside auctions listings are just at 10 percent of what they were one year ago. I have about 12-15 thousand collectible patches that make up 70 percent of my inventory. Last year I had requested to have more "patch friendly" categories so that I could try them out on eBid but never got a response so in the end I chose to open up my own auction site just for patches which is coming along nicely.

Out of the rest of my inventory by this summer at leastt 2000 items will be on eBid. I am currently working on listing templates for eBid and also trying to figure out how to connect Google Checkout to my listings. I wish PPPay were available to US sellers. Maybe in the future. That is another feature that will help the US site come along.

Ken

HannaHolly
20th April 2008, 07:58 AM
My darkside auctions listings are just at 10 percent of what they were one year ago. I have about 12-15 thousand collectible patches that make up 70 percent of my inventory. Last year I had requested to have more "patch friendly" categories so that I could try them out on eBid but never got a response so in the end I chose to open up my own auction site just for patches which is coming along nicely.

Out of the rest of my inventory by this summer at leastt 2000 items will be on eBid. I am currently working on listing templates for eBid and also trying to figure out how to connect Google Checkout to my listings. I wish PPPay were available to US sellers. Maybe in the future. That is another feature that will help the US site come along.

Ken


Google checkout intergration. available to seller+ only

Q How do i find my merchant key?

The following thread will help http://helpdesk.ebid.net/showpost.php?p=577344&postcount=2 (http://helpdesk.ebid.net/showpost.php?p=577344&postcount=2)

Q. What settings do i use on google?

Try this screenshot.

http://helpdesk.ebid.net/showpost.php?p=547353&postcount=2 (http://helpdesk.ebid.net/showpost.php?p=547353&postcount=2)

stampsulove
20th April 2008, 11:27 AM
Another thing is, how many are still listing on the Darkside as well, whilst waiting for things to really get going here. Is now the time to really knock the Darkside listings on the head, a big drop there and a big increase here will help encourage folk to quit the place. Remember the Boycott starts on 1st May could be a good time for action.

This time last year I had over 500 Rubber stamps listed on Feebay, at the moment I have about 60 and that is going down as the item sells/ends. I have now got over 200 items listed here spread over 4 stores as with the ability to have 5 stores I can diversify into other craft items which was not worth listing over there. I aim to have at least 500/600 items listed here on eBid by the end of July. As from the end of April Feebay will have seen the last of me.

BAGHAG999
20th April 2008, 11:51 AM
Ive tried even by telling my regulars that i sell cheaper on EBID.
A few have made the leap and havant regretted it.
As a buyer i always look first on here .

maljosselection
21st April 2008, 07:57 AM
Good news, Just had a very welcome buyer.They are new to ebid today joined and bought.Lets hope the turn around is coming.

lynxy
21st April 2008, 08:05 AM
Good news, Just had a very welcome buyer.They are new to ebid today joined and bought.Lets hope the turn around is coming.

Me too. Item sold yesterday to a new buyer who joined same day:D

madelaine
21st April 2008, 08:23 AM
I've had 9 sales this month to newbies on my business id. One, I fear, is turning into an NPB but the others have all paid :D

ThePatchDog
21st April 2008, 01:30 PM
Thank you for the Google Checkout help Post Holly. I think I have set it up correctly but how do I check? Or do I wait for someone to buy and cross my fingers? Also, I think this is the url I needed to put into the API callback url but can someone double check me?

https://secure.ebid.net/perl/googlecheckout_in.cgi

ChameleonSystems
21st April 2008, 08:50 PM
If some of us are listing items that cannot be found anywhere else, then buyers will find this site. Rare items, unique items etc. Try googling "Spellfire first edition"... for example.

Off at a tangent:
Now theres a thing... googling "Dragongeese"... hehe!

LoriKeet08
22nd April 2008, 11:33 AM
I know that I did not have a lot of competition on E**y among my Caswell-Massey listings, so by leaving completely in February, when I came here, and telling past customers of my move (none of whom have bought anything from me, yet?!), I am HOPING that the few competitors I DID have on E**y, will close up shop, cut down on their listings, or raise their prices (to accommodate the fee increases), and once their DSR's and feedback ratings drop (my scores were MUCH better than theirs!), that my former customers will seek me out?!

I'm really trying to be patient...and I hope things pick up soon! ::crosses fingers:: Of course, here in the US, we ARE in a recession! People have overextended themselves GREATLY in the housing market, people are either claiming personal bankruptcy or simply walking away from their obligations at phenomenal rates, gas prices are soaring (not as bad as the 70's, but people don't have very good memories), and it's a very heated presidential election year, so I expect that "disposable" income isn't as disposable as it once was...which all means a slow down in online auction sales!

ThePatchDog
23rd April 2008, 03:12 AM
If some of us are listing items that cannot be found anywhere else, then buyers will find this site. Rare items, unique items etc. Try googling "Spellfire first edition"... for example.

Off at a tangent:
Now theres a thing... googling "Dragongeese"... hehe!

A main product I sell is zipper neckties. Others have them but not as much variety I have and do not have prices as low as I have.

I also sell tie clips/cufflinks, nothing so special except my prices are better than everywhere else I can find

I also have a very large variety of souvenir magents. The actual molded souvenir ones, not the homemade credit card style.
When I have them listed on eBay I usually have 700-800 of them while usually people have about a dozen at the most. That will be my next shop after I have my accessories store stocked in a couple months.

I hope to close my last darkside store by August and just use them for listing auctions while pointing my customers to my eBid store for a much larger selection at lower prices.

gpslady
18th December 2008, 07:21 PM
I have to charge more to sell items on eBay because of their crazy high fees! I can no longer afford to sell there. I was a Platinum Powerseller and quit!

The fees, the DSR's, the unfair feedback policy got me out of there and I had been active since 2001 and selling upwards to 80K per month in sales. With all of the fee increases I was no longer able to hang out and wait for sales and list a thousand items. Listing a thousand items costs a lot of money especially if they are not selling! I could sell the items for a lot less in my official online store and pay Google aAdwords to promote it and still come out ahead!

I paid eBay over $30,000 in seller fees in 2007!! That does not count the thousands I paid to Paypal which is their right arm crook! I do prefer Google Checkout over Paypal any day!

So my thought is this, sellers become buyers. I have already purchased from eBid and want to support the community to help it grow. I am setting up a blog for this site as well as have a signature link in all of my emails like this:

Visit eBid - the online auction that is growing Rapidly!
http://us.ten.ebid.net/perl/normal.cgi?ref=503808&mo=register-main

I want to support the owner of this site for helping me! I am going to help them market! I am an online marketer for 17 years and I know it does not happen overnight but if we all help it will grow much faster!

eBay is in the news a lot lately and it is not usually good news...time will take care of them. Many big companies go down when not ran properly. They have time to clear it up if they go back to what was working and sent all of the sellers like myself an invitation to come back and they apologize...but hey that will never happen so expect eBid and others to continue to grow!

I have always said "In marketing there is a butt for every seat! So I know the auditorium will soon be filled!! :)" No pun intended!

I also say "without advertising it is like winking in the dark - NO one knows!"

So tell every seller you know about eBid and meantime lets help one another build positive feedback and support other like minded people who come here.

Happy Holidays,
Jude Hodge
Otherwise known as The GPS Lady! :)