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In windows 7 you could import your photos from your camera, view them and turn them round (change the orientation) and the would save like that. You could also choose to delete when imported. In windows 8 you dont seem to be able to do that. I import the photos and turn them round but when i upload to ebid they are sideways on again and there is no option to delete from camera. Am i doing something wrong and how can i change it please
What program are you using in Windows 8? Is it just the default paint app? If so they may have had to rewrite that for Windows 8 and it may have less functionality right now than Windows 7. I would recommend using GIMP (http://www.gimp.org/downloads/). I use it for all my image editing and I have checked that according to users it works fully on Windows 8. Hopefully that info helps.
Not sure specifically about Windows 8....but most programs you have to SAVE any changes like that that you make......rotate, then SAVE, or SAVE AS.
Thats the problem maj there is no option to save.. I went to microsoft and downloaded photo gallery which was what i used in windows 7 and it works perfectly. i just had to remember to change the file associations. i think i hate windows 8!
Well, OH said today that MS isn't supporting Windows 7 anymore. sigh.
You and many others! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Maelbrigda
It's going to be a huge opportunity for Ubuntu Linux, which is easy to use, does pretty much everything that most Windows users want (and more) and is free! The only thing it lacks is big budget advertising! A bit like eBid, really!
And I thoroughly agree with agnqtech, Gimp is a great photo editor, a free download for Windows or Mac or Linux. It's very powerful, but you don't need to learn all its facilities. Just google for what you want to do if you can't immediately find it in the menus -- e.g. 'gimp rotate', and you'll find plenty of helpful sites and even tutorials on Youtube. Sure, every photo editor can do simple things like crop/rotate/resize, but some day you may want to be a little more ambitious -- then with the simple editors you have to switch and relearn, whereas Gimp can do it all.
Will have to avoid windows 8 at all cost.
I have not used it, but Windows 8 does have some good features
There are always teething problems with new OSs etc.
It may pay to stick with it and they will be working on 9 which will be based on 8.
i tried to install linux as a dual boot but it failed and i had to remove it.
Here's a link to your local Linux Group who will be able to help you Penni:Quote:
Originally Posted by Maelbrigda
http://aberlug.org.uk/
If you email them with your problem they will likely reply with a solution.
Ubuntu is the best OS out there...luv it
I must admit I have been hooked on Ubuntu for over 5 years & I just love the 4 desktop upgrade on the latest version. But.... I have now got hooked on Mint (Mate) & whilst I have both OS's as well as Windows I'm using Mint 99.9% of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by DandC_Warehouse
I think the big upset with the latest Ubuntu upgrade was the side icon bar..... reducing the screen width at all was just silly IMO & a lot of folk have lost the plot with it because of that. Even icon size reduction didn't work on my lappy - had to scroll to right & left to see the whole page of anything. But that 4 desktop icon is superb! Wish they would put it on Mint.
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Why buy MS Office? For most purposes Libre Office is fine. It even reads and writes MS file formats, if you really must lock yourself in to proprietary formats!Quote:
Originally Posted by MelmacALF
I agree with the comments above about Ubuntu Linux and Mint Linux, they're great. The problem with them is the same as with Libre Office: no advertising, so people don't know there's alternatives. And some people won't touch anything that isn't heavily branded and advertised -- like Heinz baked beans and Kellogs cornflakes.
Unlike most products, with software, price and quality aren't related to one another.
Yes telling the average computer user to change to Linux is blowing in the wind.
Liunx has been around for years and people still use Windows. (linux is big in large companies back offices) but it will never go viral or mainstream, kind of like ebid verus ebay. Who really wants to learn a whole new system.
And the Office alternatives are NOT as good as Office, eg they don't have Access Database.
The Raspberry Pi is a big hit with Schools - at £25 it is a great replacement when a computer breaks down in classes so they are being supplied there ~ with Linux on them!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Juliebabe25
Youngsters can then continue their classes uninterrupted.
Linux is increasing in popularity ~ it is free ~ and I doubt very much that in the grand scheme of things most folks would know what Access Database is lol!!!
The Linux OS's are far more attractive in their efficiency ~ no anti virus needed; no cleaning or scans; up & running within seconds of being switched on. Updates in a minute or so ~ on the infrequent occasion it needs them. Windows??? Windows is a joke & a huge time waster.
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edit: forgot to add, a friend of mine switched to Ubuntu from Windows just 10 days ago ~ over the moon with it he is ~ and he is 86 years young! A neighbour of mine is in her late 70's & is planning on switching when her current puter expires (soon, I should think, thanks to Windows).
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Your comments demonstrate the problem, it's one of perception, not reality. "Who wants to learn a whole new system". 10 years ago I would have agreed with you wholeheartedly. But there's been a huge convergence in systems. Today it's as easy to switch to Ubuntu as it is to switch to Apple OS X. And if you can cope with switching to an iPhone or Android you can certainly cope with Ubuntu. What's new to learn? You click on an icon, an app starts. If you're used to using Firefox on Windows it works exactly the same on any of the other systems it runs on, including Ubuntu/Mint/etc. How hard is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Juliebabe25
I'm giggling at the idea that Access d/b is the pinnacle against which others should be compared! :)
Libre Office has its own solution: http://www.libreoffice.org/features/base/
But let's not go down that road. How many of the MS Office users reading this thread are using Access? Very few, I'd guess, so they're not concerned with migration of an Access database.
I find many of the retired people I help have bought MS Office, yet all they do with it is write the occasional letter or create a small spreadsheet. It's tragic, they could do all they need (and far more) with a free open alternative (even on Windows, no need to switch to Linux). Worse still, they then get upgrade invitations and shell out another wodge of their pension on an upgrade they don't need.
@JOonwash
I take you point on most of your comments.
But until people are not happy with Windows, they will not look for an alternative.
I have lots of internal systems set up and lots of programs and utilities that all use Windows and there is no way I would change.
Windows does all I want and it works.
People have been pushing Linux (free) to the masses for the last 10 years and have got nowhere versus Windows (paid) just as ebid have been pushing ebay users for the last 10 years and got nowhere.
Hi Julie, you're right, it needs something major to take people out of their comfort zone. We saw it with feeBay when they changed things in a big way and ebid gained a lot of sellers. Windows works fine for you and I'm comfortable with that and wouldn't want you to try to get you to change. I find that the times when I pick up a lot of interest in Ubuntu is when someone has been hit by malware. I recover their files, fix their system, but inevitably they learn that I recovered their files by using a Ubuntu live cd. And they learn that I've never had a worry about malware with Ubuntu. "Hmmm, what is this Ubu-thing, show me!".Quote:
Originally Posted by Juliebabe25
But then they stick with what they know. A few months later they're back, their computer is held to ransom again, perhaps some scam that claims they have a speeding ticket and they need to pay $100 (to the Russian mafia!). By now they've discovered their granddaughter is using Ubuntu (as 20 million others are) and she really likes all the free games. This time enough is enough and they ask me to install it, so I repartition the disk, install Ubuntu and they have a choice at start up, they can run Windows or Ubuntu.
Change doesn't happen instantly. And there is no one solution that's right for everybody.
@Johnwash
Good skills!
Is the fact that Ubuntu does not get viruses due to the Ubuntu system or the fact that like Apples no one bothers to write viruses for it as not so many people use it?
i would really like to switch - but i dont know how. After trying to install mint as a dual boot when my new laptop was only 1 day old and it failing to start up even in safe mode i gave up. I would also be worried about the drivers etc and that my most used programs would work.
When a new Windows OS appears I wait a year or so before flying it; by then most of the major problems that people have are ironed out; I always regard the early days as a "Beta" so thsat MS may find the things they should have found before the launch!
i currectly use Windows 7 on three machines, XP on two and Linux on the others, Ubuntu being my current favourite I must admit. I love OpenOffice...and its "Base" extension copes with Access admirably, so i see no problems there.
As for Windows being "paid". i cannot count the times I've been called upon to solve a problem with a Windows installation and have had to refer the user to the seller on the grounds that the installation was a "pirate" version and that I would not touch it.
My main complaint against the "Windows" scenario is that time and again people are suckered into buying new hardware because their own perfectly good peripherals will not work under the new system. MS itself recognised this at last with Windows 7 by allowing free access to XP under a "virtual machine" - but only if you had purchased the so called "Ultimate" edition.
I didn't say Ubuntu Linux is immune to malware, one needs to be cautious about such claims. Likewise don't believe Apple is totally immune, there was at least one outbreak last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Juliebabe25
But in both cases they're far far safer than Windows. Partly it's simply because the bad guys will go for the big volume and Windows is on, what, I don't know, but perhaps 90% of desktops/laptops?
Both Linux and Apple OS X are built on very similar foundations, systems related to Unix, with a long history of security by design. In contrast, Windows was built on MSDOS, which had no such concept, though MS have been trying in recent years to design in more security. That's a tough job, like playing whack-a-mole in a straw house, instead of using bricks to start with.
Another feature that helps Linux is that everything is open, so the code is studied by people all around the world. In fact security flaws are found frequently (though it's rare for them to affect a large proportion of desktop users), but they're patched very fast.
All that said, if you care about security (and why wouldn't you!) you still need to be careful on all 3 main platforms, Windows, Apple, Linux. Example, don't run Java, it has a horrific history. (That's Java, not JavaScript, which is a completely different animal, despite the name similarity). If you really need Java (and these days it's much less common on web sites) then have a second browser that you only use for those sites, and disable or uninstall Java in your #1 browser.
Flash has a bad history on all 3 platforms too.
That's entirely understandable. Likewise, how many people feel comfortable installing Windows on a bare PC? And even fewer would be confident about installing Windows on a PC that already has another operating system installed (or installing Linux alongside OS X on an Apple Mac).Quote:
Originally Posted by Maelbrigda
It's possible, if you devote a lot of time and caution to it (e.g. the first thing to do is have an external hard drive onto which you can write a complete image of your internal drive) and read forums, docs, etc. But, like 'Millionaire', it's much easier to phone a friend! :)
I guess Aberdeenshire is a big county, but you could try contacting your local Linux User Group, http://aberlug.org.uk/ -- others elsewhere would find their local LUG by going first to www.lug.org.uk. You'll often find such groups delighted to have the chance to help you.
Drivers, it depends, very often these days it's easier to get peripherals working on Linux than on Windows. You don't even need to mess about with a CD or searching the web, devices just work. When they don't, often there are simple solutions that user groups can help with. Yes, you can also find such solutions by searching with Google in forums, but then you may have trouble understanding some of the new jargon. Though http://ubuntuforums.org/ there's lots of patient people you'll take the time to explain if you say you don't follow.
And with some peripherals, they simply won't work. This is most commonly because manufacturers keep the workings of their devices secret and don't put in the extra effort to write drivers for any system but Windows. Indeed, you often find that an older device, with an XP driver, the manufacturer may not even be bothered to write for 7 or 8... why should they, they'd rather sell you their newer hardware! In some cases people have reverse engineered how devices work and written drivers for them. Or if the manufacturer can't be bothered, but has released sufficient info, other people will contribute drivers.
Applications... long before you consider migrating to Linux, try to use open source applications on Windows. Even if you never migrate, that will still give you the advantage of being less likely to suffer from having your data locked up in proprietary formats. So use Firefox instead of IE. Use Libre Office instead of buying MS Office.
Then it's likely you'll have just the same experience on your new operating system as on your old. Your Windows applications don't install and run on Linux, but there may be ways round this. For example my wife bought a garden design program years ago. She now runs it on Ubuntu, even though it's a Windows exe file, by using something called Wine (a free Windows emulator). You could also run Windows within a virtual machine on Linux.
Is it worth the hassle? Depends. If all you do is write a few letters, emails, surf the web, and sell on ebid, probably not much hassle at all and a lot safer. If you're an architect using some specialist software you paid 5 grand for and the supplier doesn't have a Linux version, I'd suggest you stick with what you know.
Get used to change. In a few years time many of us will be using iPads or Android tablets for most purposes. (Android uses the Linux kernel, by the way! Linux is everywhere, you just don't know it!)
Nice follow up! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cambrensis
Are you using Libre Office now, rather than Open Office, which seems to be lagging behind since the fork?
Thanks for the great news about Access compatibility, I don't use desktop databases so I was unaware of that. Shoots down Julie's #15 comment in flames! :) Sorry Julie!
Sorry for the delay in replying! Yes, I am using Libre Office now for precisely the reason you suggest. When I say using, perhaps I should say "trying to break". In other words, every time a new version of software comes out I attempt all the things I normally do with it ad nauseam and in various combinations to see what happens. So far it has withstood my onslaughts I'm glad to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnwash1
I find in general that the more bloated the code, and therefore the more memory hogging it is, the more likely it is to break.
Incidentally, I'm following a course online at Harvard (nothing very special) but am using Libre to submit my MS files; no complaints so far!
Cambrensis
Going back to Maelbrigda's original request; I haven't tried Windows 8 yet, but the program I always use for viewing, converting formats, slideshows, etc in Windows is "Irfanview". (Just use the name plus dotcomm to get hold of latest edition of this freeware). I've used it for years and never ever use the Ms software. It has a low overhead and does very quickly everything that most users need, including cropping and colour shifting when necessary. I have more complex software for other purposes but this is a good, simple day to day program. Hope that helps; have checked and it will work with 8.
Cambrensis
I use ubuntu 12.10, better than windows 8, got tired of windows lol...linux so much better these days
Yes, back when I was still on Windows I liked Irfanview, good program. The one thing that's not good about it, unless it's changed, is that it's free, not open. You have no idea, and neither does anyone else except the author, whether there's something sneaky lurking within it. OK, I don't really think a mature well known program like Irfanview has this problem, but it's difficult to be 100% sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by cambrensis
And what if the author decides not to release updates so it runs on Windows 9, 10, or whatever? What if you want to learn a bit about how a program manipulates graphic formats, by reading a little of its source code? What if you'd like to add (or ask a friend to add for you) a small feature that the author can't be bothered to add?
There's a big difference between free of cost and software freedom (aka libre, aka FOSS). It's a difference you may not notice for years, but when it bites you, you wish you'd paid more attention. :(
"Oh dear!" as the two old ladies said! :o One day he will not update it whether he wants to or not! Of course there is always reverse engineering! But I stray into the realms of fancy! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by johnwash1
To be more serious I would agree that in general I'd avoid anything "free" as there is usually a hidden cost, especially in software. Toolbars with free smileys spring to mind, funnily enough! But I'll bet that you when checking something new usually run something in the background to see what is going on; I usually do - :o
Cambrensis
No, actually I don't. But then I don't use Windows. So when I try new free software it comes from the Ubuntu repositories, verified genuine by digital signature, full source code also available and eye-balled by people all over the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by cambrensis
So I don't suffer from all that wretched hidden stuff, uncheck this box if you don't want to also install "search conduit" etc etc etc. It really is free as in free of cost AND free as in freedom.
It's XP MS isn't supporting anymore. Give Windows 7 another year then that will be out the "window" as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by HerMajesty
I just learned my way around XP now I have 7 at work and XP at home. It's going to take me quite some time to learn 7. Probably just in time for MS to stop supporting it. Why can't we just keep the programs we like and are used to? Why are we forced to change?
I ditched windows a few weeks ago and now use linux mint - my only complaint is I wished I'd switched sooner :)Quote:
Originally Posted by adruml
Well as I said earlier, I use 7, XP and Ubuntu on different machines. I have Mint on a stick (sounds like the old cinema advert for an iced lolly!) which I used to track down Cheaver's problem with it a couple of weeks back. That basically is Ubuntu anyway. I've used Linux for many years, before Ubuntu appeared.Quote:
Originally Posted by sucadot
The basic principles apply in a similar way of course. A new version appears and eventually they stop supporting the earlier versions, Over a year ago I was running Mint on an old machine in my garage-workshop and one morning found it would not start up. After much messing about I realised they had done an update overnight and that had caused a problem. Cutting a long story, and several hours, short it turned out the hardware was too old for the new version.
I dream of the return of the Penny Farthing! LOL!!
Cambrensis
I check everything. but then I am not at all trusting in the computer sphere, I've been around them too long.I still have nightmares about racks of valves/tubes and air-conditioning!Quote:
Originally Posted by johnwash1
LOL!!
Cambrensis
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-GB/w...dit-photos-faqQuote:
Originally Posted by Maelbrigda
One of the possible reasons for not being able to be saved is its file type - from the above link
"The photo is an unsupported file type. Photo Gallery can't open or edit all photo file types. To save a copy of photo and change it's file type to a format that you can edit, double-click the photo, click Make a copy, select a file type, and then click Save."
Could be that your camera isnt windows 8 compatible yet...................
In regards to Ubuntu, I wouldnt personally advise anyone to just try and switch to ubuntu. At the very least, run it on a spare machine, become familar with it and then switch to ubuntu if you feel comfortable enough
Whilst it has got better and is amusingly going towards a windows type Operating system ...., to someone used to the windows way of things, it can become a huge frustration whilst you come to grips with it......
That's good advice and avoids any risk that you affect what's on your main machine. But if you don't have a spare machine (and you're strapped for space, so scrounging someone's throwout isn't an option) you could "dual boot", in other words have both Windows and Ubuntu on the same machine. If you want to go this route, get assistance from someone knowledgeable, you don't want to wipe out your existing system. And ensure you have good backups.Quote:
Originally Posted by manstomar
If you have at least a couple of gigs of ram, another route is to install VirtualBox and run your new trial operating system inside that.
Going towards Windows??? On the contrary, the past couple of years, with Ubuntu moving to the 'Unity' desktop, it looks and feels much more like an Apple Mac. But whatever, it really doesn't matter. These days most people find they can adapt quite easily to new systems, whether they're Windows, Apple OSX, Linux, an iPhone or Android. Of all of those, perhaps Win 8 is the biggest jump, amusingly enough! Way to shoot yourselves in the foot, Microsoft! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by manstomar
You are not forced to change. XP will not stop working just because Microsoft stops supporting it.Quote:
Originally Posted by adruml
"Can anyone help - windows 8"
The simple answer is no. Windows 8 will do exactly what it wants to do. I touch the keypad and things magically appear at the side of the screen, or the webpage/document will enlarge/shrink, or a new tab will open, or something else I did not want to do will just happen. I have checked the agreement on our new laptop and apparently we are not covered if I throw it at a wall in frustration, though the temptation is still there. I am hoping that eventually I will learn to control this beast or it will grow tired of deliberately doing things simply to annoy me.
On the contrary. If you connect to the Internet, effectively you are forced to change XP. There will be no security updates after next April, so it's unwise to continue to use it, even though it won't actually stop working.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony41
Why can't we just keep the programs we like, why are we forced to change? Because unless you change, the Microsoft revenue beast will go hungry!
Though it'll definitely be on a lean diet, try googling for: microsoft admit windows 8 failure.
XP has had a pretty good run, it came out in year 2000! And few PCs that were delivered with XP will be powerful enough to run recent versions of Windows. Your best bet is to find someone who can help you put a system such as Linux Mint on that computer, it would be a waste to have it end up in landfill.