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eBid Could Be An eBay Rival
eBid would need no advertising and could easily knock the market No.1 online auction site if you only paid for items that sold and eBid removed the seller fee's structure.
This is the only reason we don't sell on eBid and when eBid realises this is a severe disadvantage in comparison to eBay, eBid could possible be a strong eBay rival, this would also mean a lot of businesses such as mine that sell our eBay would happily start selling on eBid but as we do not know how strong our sales will be on eBid we are not willing to throw money at selling on eBid.
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I don't quite know what you are asking. eBid has several options already for a seller that is free to list, with a FVF about 1/3rd as much as eBay's.
http://us.ebid.net/help_money.php
The only options that really cost upfront fees are ones like highlight/bold/front page status/etc. And I agree with fees for those, because if those were free then every auction would include it and it would make no difference.
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Personally... 49.49 is a small price to pay to find out if your items will sell LOL the 2% on gallery is a choice.
How cheap do you want it??? LOL
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Originally Posted by
bigappledrinks
eBid would need no advertising and could easily knock the market No.1 online auction site if you only paid for items that sold and eBid removed the seller fee's structure.
This is the only reason we don't sell on eBid and when eBid realises this is a severe disadvantage in comparison to eBay, eBid could possible be a strong eBay rival, this would also mean a lot of businesses such as mine that sell our eBay would happily start selling on eBid but as we do not know how strong our sales will be on eBid we are not willing to throw money at selling on eBid.
If this were a survey I would have to hit the "strongly disagree" button.
The eBid lifetime fee has little if nothing to do with more sellers not joining, if so they are off in their logic. The fee's here are low, low low and I can't imagine anyother site being lower and offering sellers what eBid offers. Selling $1,000.00 worth of items here for me easily covers that lifetime fee just in final value fee savings alone not to mention listing fees.
We have the ability to communicate with the administrators, leave truthful feedback for both buyers and sellers and we can list as much as we want for however long we want.
Nothing wrong with the fees here whatsoever. Self promoting is what eBid is all about and they have also started advertising on Social sites and wherever else they can to keep our fees low.
The choices in my opinion are simple. Either promote yourself and become responsible for how much you sell (low fees) or pay someone to advertise for you, sit back and make sales without promoting yourself (high fees). It is our choice nobody elses.
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OP- you have already 'joined' as a seller - why not list some items and see how they go? All it will cost you is your time....
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I don't agree with your ideas as well.
Just having your listings on ebid is not going to set the world on fire.
In the real world there is a well known phrase called "you get what you pay for"
And if you pay nothing......
Also if people coulf put up all of their tat on ebid for free, it would not help.
I suggest that if you are a serious long term seller that the ebid life time Seller+ deal is a very good one.
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If I understand the OP, he objects to any and all listing fees.
We paid for the Seller+ membership as soon as we joined eBid. That was less than two months' listing fees on FeeBay. We don't use any of the special features, so we have never paid fees to list our items. We pay 2% FVF when something sells.
This site is a bargain. And we are selling more than we did on FeeBay.
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It seems to me that people who have sold on eBay, Know what's up. Like me! I was eBayer for a long time, Made a lot of sale's but most of my profit's went to eBay fee's, and PAYPAL in with eBay. 2% here is nothing!. On eBay by time I bought my product listed it, Sold it paid the seller's fee's I ended up making .48 Cents off one item, I pay almost five times that amount for my product. The only way to make some kind of money was to list items in two's, three's, and four's, For my type of product.
Yes it has been slow here but if you use Facebook, Twitter, And list some of your items as bid you'll get more hit's on your site. Since I've been here I haven't sold anything but my hit's to my page has jump a lot since I started with twitter, That one seems' to get some attention to your listing's. But as for fee's! Here I sell a single item $5.00 I pay .10 Cent fee. eBay same $5.00 item .45 Cent fee. plus listing fee's BIG DIFFERENCE.
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Originally Posted by
bigappledrinks
eBid would need no advertising and could easily knock the market No.1 online auction site if you only paid for items that sold and eBid removed the seller fee's structure.
This is the only reason we don't sell on eBid and when eBid realises this is a severe disadvantage in comparison to eBay, eBid could possible be a strong eBay rival, this would also mean a lot of businesses such as mine that sell our eBay would happily start selling on eBid but as we do not know how strong our sales will be on eBid we are not willing to throw money at selling on eBid.
I totally disagree but I have a question "So why do you post here if you don't like it here??". The pricing over here is so clear cut which is nothing like "Feebay". I have been selling there for a couple of years. But when you calculate how much net profit that you have made at the end of each month...Well, nothing really much left for us. Some times I thought I was working for "Feebay" more than running my own business. As they keep increasing their listing fee and changing their rules. I have no idea how to follow the rules of game anymore.
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When you are on the main page of eBid.net please click in the far upper-left of your screen where it says:
eBid vs eBay .. An independent comparison.
See why thousands are coming to eBid.
You will then be able to change your view of eBid vs. *bay I'm sure. While this thread will most probably garner you many "boo's" I do welcome you to eBid and hope that you will list your items here...best of luck!
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I am unclear what the poster is actaully referring to as fees here are very low
But then so are sales
So a question: are you better off with
very low fees, but very low sales meaning turnover and profit are negligible
Or
Higher fees, higher sales, higher turnover and some profit
Answer:
There isn't one because it depends on what you are selling. Our products are not moving here, but sell regularly elesewhere. And yes, we often only make less than 10p on a sale, but if we do that a few times a day it adds up.
So if we use an equation of
total Profit = No Sales * (Sale price-fees)
then we can see that actually the fees become meaningless if sales are 0 (or tend towards zero)
At the end of the day, fees are only relevant if you can have comparable sales
Discuss! :)
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Yes you are right but this applies only to two categories of sellers….first one who looking to make a living from auction site month to month and second who looking to make a less couple hundreds $$$ from auction site month to month….
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And by the way good old days where many just stay in own place and make living from selling on the auction site instead of real work is just pass by for many and no auction site exist anymore anywhere who can give you that where you have low fees and ‘’monster’’ sales and good profit in end of month…this stuff don’t exist anymore for many people who selling on the Net…
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As a business, however small, the lifetime fee here is negligible,
& you write it off against tax.
If you are paying for decent hosting for a business website,
it would probably cost you at least that, every 2 years.
If you are paying for a shop on ebay I think even a basic one costs,
over twice the lifetime fee here each year.
If it's listed there, it might sell, it might not,
either way you pay fees.
If it's listed here, it might sell, it might not,
if it doesn't sell you don't pay any fees.
The one guarantee, if it's not listed here, it cannot sell.
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After managing to shut my mouth (it was hanging open after reading the OP) I have only one question: Was this a SERIOUS observation?
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Originally Posted by
Gothicina
As a business, however small, the lifetime fee here is negligible,
& you write it off against tax.
If you are paying for decent hosting for a business website,
it would probably cost you at least that, every 2 years.
If you are paying for a shop on ebay I think even a basic one costs,
over twice the lifetime fee here each year.
If it's listed there, it might sell, it might not,
either way you pay fees.
If it's listed here, it might sell, it might not,
if it doesn't sell you don't pay any fees.
The one guarantee, if it's not listed here, it cannot sell.
My store subscription plus listing fees for a month over there are about equal to the one time payment for Seller+. It's a no brainer to me.
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Really glad to have woken up to this words of wisdom it is really a no brainer.
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Even with the high fees on ebay you cannot gaurantee good sales as before
but one thing is at least you will have a couple of sales in a week.
Same cannot be said of ebid but i know things will be better.
Guess ebay was like this nce upon a time.
I hope when ebid becomes as big a selling site as ebay
they will not cancel our lifetime thing.
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Im afraid having been on here for a couple of weeks now and sold nothing im starting to think the ebay fees are justified. Ebid does not advertise at all - no advertising=no business! its not our job to promote ebid, it not our company. From what i have read ebid is only a year younger than ebay yet has not made anywhere near as much progress in that time. The only way this site will be jump started into life is by a massive marketing campaign ie tv, google adwords etc. I pay in the region of 200-300 a month in fees to ebay but turn over about £2000 so 10% is not to much to drop off my margin. Ive been looking in the sector in which i sell and no one has any feedback at all in fact two people have some how managed to get negative feedback. The one seller who does have feedback has had it imported from else where!! Ebid will never rival ebay because it simply does not put in the capital investment to make it work.
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Another Basher that has run home to pay his fees.
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Originally Posted by
Riflesports
Im afraid having been on here for a couple of weeks now and sold nothing im starting to think the ebay fees are justified. Ebid does not advertise at all - no advertising=no business! its not our job to promote ebid, it not our company. From what i have read ebid is only a year younger than ebay yet has not made anywhere near as much progress in that time. The only way this site will be jump started into life is by a massive marketing campaign ie tv, google adwords etc. I pay in the region of 200-300 a month in fees to ebay but turn over about £2000 so 10% is not to much to drop off my margin. Ive been looking in the sector in which i sell and no one has any feedback at all in fact two people have some how managed to get negative feedback. The one seller who does have feedback has had it imported from else where!! Ebid will never rival ebay because it simply does not put in the capital investment to make it work.
You need to give ebid more than 2 weeks.
Sure we don't have the sales that ebay has,
But if sellers keeping going back to ebay your 10% fees will soon be 15% etc etc.
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I havent gone back my products are still on here, im just not selling anything! Its not a case of running back its a case of wanting to make money and at the moment ive lost money by paying my sign up fees! Ebid needs a marketing stratagy, you cant really on sellers coming here what ebid needs is buyers.
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I've been here about a year and I have decided that I'm going to continue listing here. (I've had 40 some odd sales of various little items.) Right now many of my auctions have closed and I need to get some listing done again.
The only way that I can see eBid becoming a rival of you-know-what is if sellers list a lot of items. Part of the problem that I find is that when I want to buy a widget, that there aren't any of what I'm looking for on eBid, so I end up having to go elsewhere.
It goes without saving that what one person likes to buy on-line isn't the same as what another person shops for. eBid needs more sellers and more items in order to become more competitive, in my opinion. So, I had better take my own advice and get listing. :-)
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I actually think Ebid should have mandatory fees on all auction items. Two reasons why. Because if I put an item up for auction and the price isn't high enough I can bid on it myself (with a second account or a friend) bidding the price up. And if I end up buying it who cares because I can relist it at a later time. A fee actually encourages honesty. I am not going to bid on something myself if I know I'll loose money on it if I win. It's not a true auction when it can be rigged. Second, I list everything in a gallery because I want Ebid to make money. Ebid can't become a true competitor of Ebay unless it has enough revenue. Honestly I would even buy a bond or stock in Ebid just so it could compete better with Ebay.
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You are right, I haven't sold a single thing on Ebid ....without the help of Ebay. Here is what I do and I have had a fair amount of success in the short time I've been on Ebid. BTW you may want to check out my store on here, feel free to steal my ChearperThanEbay logo if anyone is interested. I have a lot of items that are similiar so I will list maybe 5 on Ebay and the rest on Ebid at a lower price (even the shipping is lower). After the sale on Ebay I email them and let them know I have items on Ebid and they are all cheaper, even the shipping. I let them know I have multiple items sometimes but on Ebid everything is sifnifigantly cheaper because of no fees. Every time I do this I have sold out of my Ebid product for that category. In fact my store is almost empty on here now. So not only am I making a sale I am spreading the word about Ebid by signing people up and letting them know to look on here for cheaper prices.
http://us.ebid.net/perl/main.cgi?mo=...aper-than-ebay
It has to be buyers, sellers and items for Ebid to continue growing.
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Originally Posted by
AllMarksStuff
I actually think Ebid should have mandatory fees on all auction items. Two reasons why. Because if I put an item up for auction and the price isn't high enough I can bid on it myself (with a second account or a friend) bidding the price up. And if I end up buying it who cares because I can relist it at a later time. A fee actually encourages honesty. I am not going to bid on something myself if I know I'll loose money on it if I win. It's not a true auction when it can be rigged. Second, I list everything in a gallery because I want Ebid to make money. Ebid can't become a true competitor of Ebay unless it has enough revenue. Honestly I would even buy a bond or stock in Ebid just so it could compete better with Ebay.
eBid are very hot on Shill bidding, you cannot have two accounts without clearing it with them first.
If they allow you two accounts there can be no interaction between them, or both accounts will be closed.
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I have only been on ebid for a few days now and see tremendous potential. I have an e-bay store that I am very frustrated with. In my business there is a lot of competition. Ebay does not protect the little guy. I am not going to go into iut but huge sellers on e-bay have tactics to keep the little guy down and ebay supports this. My seller fees on ebay run over $500 dollars a month so this shows you how much I sell. Complaints to ebay go unanswered. In the past week I have done online chat, direct phone call and messaging about a problem and they keep telling me they will get back to me within 48 hours. Guess what? its been a week. Anyway, if you want to continue to pay those fees, which are going up because they will start charging commisiion on shipping in June, you go right ahead. I have started listing items on Craigslist with a link to my Item. I have one item that has received over 2500 views since yesterday. Thats one craigslist post in one major city. If anything, it gets the word out.
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Originally Posted by
bigappledrinks
eBid would need no advertising and could easily knock the market No.1 online auction site if you only paid for items that sold and eBid removed the seller fee's structure.
This is the only reason we don't sell on eBid and when eBid realises this is a severe disadvantage in comparison to eBay, eBid could possible be a strong eBay rival, this would also mean a lot of businesses such as mine that sell our eBay would happily start selling on eBid but as we do not know how strong our sales will be on eBid we are not willing to throw money at selling on eBid.
Most nonsensical post EVER.
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Originally Posted by
arms87
Most nonsensical post EVER.
Why do you say that ?
Do you mean that on free to join and list sites people tend to park their junk ?
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Well…once for all eBay have right now about 8,800.000 Millions Collectibles listed and most of this stuff is very low price and THAT mean : how in God sake sellers on eBay make any money or profit after sale this stuff….doesn’t matter what anybody say after very big fees from eBay and Pay Pal I don’t think many can make any money at all…but people list and nobody say ‘’this is junk’’ or ''parking site''…and by the way eBay have more of 2 times Collectibles on listing from eBid total all items…so in the end if anybody say ‘’parking site’’ I think eBay is more parking site from eBid because if you sell on eBay any collectibles low price item this is not only ‘’junk’’ ‘’parking site’’ this is mean my friend you’re not only list this stuff on eBay you’re sell this almost for FREE and you work for yourself free but not for eBay…you work…you list…you pay...instead eBay paying you….how about that for answer….AMEN……..:cool:
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Originally Posted by
Juliebabe25
I don't agree with your ideas as well.
Just having your listings on ebid is not going to set the world on fire.
In the real world there is a well known phrase called "you get what you pay for"
And if you pay nothing......
Also if people coulf put up all of their tat on ebid for free, it would not help.
I suggest that if you are a serious long term seller that the ebid life time Seller+ deal is a very good one.
I completely agree. Within 5 minute of finding this site I paid the lifetime fee. It is a great deal. I have only been here for 6 days and have only 1 sale but I am working on promotion. Some of these people sound like they would ask a landlord for free shop rent and then complain when he doesn't pay for advertising.
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I STILL can't understand why people come over to eBid to escape everything that ebay stands for -
Then promptly want - or in some cases DEMAND - eBid to change to ebay's practices!
If folk just want more of the same, STICK with the bay! Simples! No Rocket Science involved!
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Originally Posted by
KAYS6912
I STILL can't understand why people come over to eBid to escape everything that ebay stands for -
Then promptly want - or in some cases DEMAND - eBid to change to ebay's practices!
If folk just want more of the same, STICK with the bay! Simples! No Rocket Science involved!
I second that
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Because they want eBay - but without the bits they personally do not like.
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Originally Posted by
astral276
Because they want eBay - but without the bits they personally do not like.
Ain't THAT the truth!
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Originally Posted by
bigappledrinks
eBid would need no advertising and could easily knock the market No.1 online auction site if you only paid for items that sold and eBid removed the seller fee's structure.
This is the only reason we don't sell on eBid and when eBid realises this is a severe disadvantage in comparison to eBay, eBid could possible be a strong eBay rival, this would also mean a lot of businesses such as mine that sell our eBay would happily start selling on eBid but as we do not know how strong our sales will be on eBid we are not willing to throw money at selling on eBid.
Why not throw £50 at it like a lot of non business users have!
Get your seller plus account and list using turbo and ninja.
Do your own promotions like BOGOF or whatever and invite your ebay customers, website customers and everyman & his dog over to your new location.
As for ebid's fee structure; I don't see your point? Seller plus account means free listing for life - or as most do 2% final value fees payable only if & when an item sells.
May I suggest that you just visit ebid for a while and do your research properly?
You may surprise yourself and see what a great deal ebid really is! ;) :) :) :)
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Originally Posted by
astral276
Because they want eBay - but without the bits they personally do not like.
At eBid prices.
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I think the problem is that sellers leave ebay (and rightly so) because of the high fees,the rule changes,the dictatorial attitude and the bias towards keeping the buyer happy at all costs.
The trouble is they then find that the buyers still prefer much ebay and few buy here.
That might not go down well with the flag wavers but unfortunately its true.
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Originally Posted by
baconsdozen
I think the problem is that sellers leave ebay (and rightly so) because of the high fees,the rule changes,the dictatorial attitude and the bias towards keeping the buyer happy at all costs.
The trouble is they then find that the buyers still prefer much ebay and few buy here.
That might not go down well with the flag wavers but unfortunately its true.
If you bias a site heavily in favour of buyers, it's not exactly rocket science to suggest that buyers like it. :D That's one of the reasons ebidders have to work harder to convince buyers to shop elsewhere.
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And its just natural for buyers to go to ebay.
Its what they have done for 10 years.
Its like hoovering or Google,
We have to change buyers mindset!