baner advertiing at carboot .markets and local events

hi all
i do carboots and stalls etc
very few buyers have heard of ebid at ground level
lets change that together

Looking for members interested in buying a 2020 Best Value Online Auction Site Award ebid banner
with or without custom QR code
place in front of table and get ebid and your store noticed
qr code defaults to ebid or custom qr code vinyl sticker added which directs them to your ebid store

estimated pvc banner with delivery £30 plus added qr £38

banner size W150xH50cm with eyelets
just idea nothing finalised yet
price cheaper the more members interested

update :banner idea on hold at the moment!!!!


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car sticker idea approved by management..........

just an update on spec of new car stickers for member's

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Hello rpm, nice to see someone making a bit of effort. I'm replying out of courtesy, as I think some of the more active posters on here should have replied to you sooner than this. I've had several intense discussions about the need for this site to advertise, most of which falls on very deaf ears. I think that the time is now too late and they may have missed the boat, however your banner costing is a fair one. They might just accept that as a possibility, but you do need to change the logo as that is now the old one and more than a few years out of date. Best of luck with your efforts.

I always thought the older logo was better :) and its a good idea but I also agree that they missed the boat and I think most people here are sick of requesting some form of advertising with no outcomes

I personally prefer the new one, its cleaner and more modern but I accept others have said they prefer the older logo, however the owners changed it and so it has to be the new one in any promotions they start (LOL).

As for missing the boat - their big opportunity was staring them under the nose when obay went over to managed payments - there were hundreds of thousands leaving and the impetus was there. However many are now going back to obay and that window of opportunity is gone.

RPM's price is correct - I can get those banners for a fraction under £30 so he's spot on if any did take him up on the offer he's made.

Yep managed payments was the perfect opportunity missed and that sort of moment will never happen again

hi all
thanks for the good comments
yes logo is old and have the new one ready i too prefer the 3d old one lol
agree opportunity was missed eb but others still flowing
ebid has 1 big factor tho no or low fees rules or restrictions compared to fleebay and bazies jungle site
both can be beaten on price at least by 10%
without a advertising budget or promotions this site will die eventually

maybe a vote is needed officially for all members by admin to get a real plan in action
am sure if all members sold 1 item at cost per week and some promotion the site will attract attention
everyone wants a bargain esp these days
over to you :)

A couple of observations RPM, not criticisms .. just observations.

While Ebid is cheaper - by far! The old saying is 'you get what you pay for'. In reality - you pay 'nowt here - and you get little or nowt in return'!
There may have been an influx of people here, BUT they were here mainly to sell, because they can't find what they want here to buy, they don't buy. End result the sellers give up as they sell little or nothing. I could go further but I'll hold back for now...

I came here in 2005 because Obay was irritating me, I had moderate success and I have to say there were far more people here on Forums then. The whole site was more vibrant. I raised advertising then, it could have taken off with just a little help - but there was a lot of resistance from the natives, who clearly know better. What do I know, after having made a living out of advertising since 1978? I left here as sales were small and it was stagnating. I made a serious return when managed payments came in with hope, and again (like several others) raised advertising again - same 'anti' response - the main argument being 'we can't afford it'! .. I did point out 'they can't afford not to'!
Anyway despite a long and voiciferous series of discussions which kept getting removed because of some idiot - who has since gone, it all came to nothing.

I realised that sadly this site is destined to fail and will never be a contender, even in the smallest way to Obay who have the market and will retain it! Obay have a business attitude and regardless of what we think run it professionally.

There may indeed be new sellers here, but they will leave eventually just as I am currently doing and returning to Obay as that is the only place to make 'real' sales - you just pay more for the privilege and put up with the carp!
To prove that, I originally had over 1400 items for sale here - in just over 12 months I sold about 12 items - value less than maybe £60. One was to a buyer who I brought over from Obay who made one special £32 purchase and has never been back since. I started rebuilding myself a new ID on Obay in November and despite having far less items for sale have sold 187 items in 151 days. Some items were items I tried selling on here, but I sold them for more back on Obay.

I admire your enthusiasm, you make valid points - no one has heard of ebid, but ... it's wasted here!

I haven't replied to this thread until now thinking that "some idiot" would be back making their demands again, being generally obnoxious and wasting everyone's time by getting the thread deleted. But as you say "they've gone" and we might be able to have a rational discussion, I'll add my views for further discussion.

I've not got fully behind calls for ebid to start advertising itself mainly because my father spent his working life in various retail management roles and remember him talking about advertising campaigns and their huge costs that must be sustained over long time-frames to be effective. I'd also assume that, if the competition mounts periodic campaigns, that time-frame means indefinitely??

I've seen here that some sellers who are in favour of ebid advertising itself are happy to see fee increases to provide the necessary cash to do so. As someone who knows little about the retail industry and even less about commercial advertising, can you help put some sort of perspective to the debate please??

What options would have the best results? In the past I remember TV, Local Radio, Bus Adverts and Local Papers all being mentioned, are there others that you would favour instead?

What is the rough cost of each, what would we get for our money, how often would they have to be repeated and for how long to effectively raise ebids profile enough to make any difference? At least then we could see both sides of the "We can't afford it" argument. We may even be able to have a stab at working-out by how much fees would have to rise to create a budget for each of the alternatives. The debate about advertising has rumbled on for so long partly because it's always been vague, "pro or anti", but with little concrete about possible strategy or facts from either side

I've also read here that some sellers use FaceBook and Pinterest to advertise their wares and increase ebid's prescence on the web. Have you used them? In your opinion are they worth considering as something that more members should get into?
Perhaps your knowledge and expertise will provide some real facts and help persuade some of the "Don't Knows" (like me) and possibly even some who oppose the idea, that it is do-able and would be beneficial enough to make any fee increases acceptable?

I don't do car boots or stalls so while a good idea, it's not for me.
I use Business Cards and Flyers to advertise my stores on eBid.
I also use FB groups for sales and to redrirect to eBid.
I used to have a Bricks & Mortar shop which I, and not my landlord, had to do advertising for.

While site advertising would be great, I don't think it would be worth the raise in Fee's to cover it.
Why?
The fee's would eventually and probably increase to the level of Ebay due to extra staff/server use etc..., then as it becomes more complicated as all growing business' do, it will slowly become another Ebay.
Then we'd be off looking for another low fee site with less complicated site owner changes/demands.

In my opinion I (Try) to price below the price on ebay, so on most of my low budget items I can sell for £0.05 to £0.10 cheaper than elsewhere. If the Fee's were increased to cover advertising, which might or might not help my sales, then I have to raise the price of my items to reflect that increase.
Now as a consumer, (and a tight arsed scotsman) when it comes to buying something, if I see an item I want and it's on two different selling platforms and there is only pennies in price difference, then i'm probably going to got with the selling platform that i've used for almost two decades.

Does everything sell on Ebay? Well no, I used to sell there (not many items) a good 5 or so years ago, and used to keep a few items on there so I could redirect (using a flyer) here when a sale was made. But most of those items while reasonably priced, stayed unsold for months. So even on Ebay you cannot gaurantee a sale.

Now I may have gone off topic here and if I have, then I apologise.
And these are just my opinions, which everyone can agree with or disagree with as I do not know everything, although I am on the spectrum so changing my opinion (even if wrong) is a long and ardous task.

Although I'd be interested to see any (even rough) figures that @goldenwonders can give us, I'm more inclined to agree with you about the benefits, or not, of advertising. But if a (very) small increase in fees can be shown to increase footfall and potential buyers significantly, I'd be more supportive -- who wouldn't like a few more sales, or even a good chance of more? But definitely not at the cost of becoming anything like, or as expensive as obay.

Like you I always put fliers in my obay parcels, but as my sales there have decreased so has the number of sales they bring to ebid. I now think many of my buyers (a lot of them making a first purchase here) come either via google shopping or simply because more people are exploring the world beyond obay as it becomes harder to find anything there.

I think that if a seller is trying to sell in a niche area, their sales will depend more on the number of people active in that niche, rather than the size of the site or how much advertising it does. I don't know about others, but I manage to "tune out" most advertising and wonder if @rpmworld 's great idea wouldn't be more effective in raising ebids profile than a million pounds spent on main-stream advertising. The audience is right, they're using their eyes and looking around, rather than trying to ignore the adverts that interupt everything and everywhere these days. If I could still do Boot Fairs, I'd buy one.

I also always have one or two items for sale on obay, in the hope of sending fliers, so I can add the following to back my scepticism about how effective advertising is when selling niche items.

Obay recently decided to be honest with its sellers:eek: and remove bot. views which were inflating the View Numbers on items. It seems that there was much less interest than it previously appeared in huge numbers of items. What it showed me was that despite millions more site visitors and vast amounts of cash spent on advertising, my items here get almost as many Views as those on obay.

My weekly "Plug Your Auction" thread that used to get about 20 views a week, now gets 40 - 50 (This week, starting last Sunday, has had 47 so far.) and when, a few weeks ago, I listed a Swarovski Crystal Item it got over 60 views, a new record, which I would say indicates more people are interested in crystal than old vases etc.

More importantly, my sales on ebid this year so far, are equal to those on obay and going by the last few years will overtake them by the end of the year. I don't do Social Media, or any other sort of advertising,(apart from fliers) but people are finding my items here, increasingly viewing them and buying more regularly.

Hello Elench,
I do see your posts frequently on the dark side of Obay. I do come on these forums most days, but rarely make any comment. I only responded to rpm because its wrong that he should be ignored when he'd got an idea, he'd costed it sensibly and was just looking for some sort of response.

Yes I also gave up posting after the 'idiot' kept destroying any debate!

Where do I begin?? - firstly any 'forward looking' company would automatically have an 'advertising/marketing budget', they may also have a department that specifically deals with marketing/PR activity. Budgets should be in the region of 1.5 to 2.5% of sales revenue. Since I have no knowledge of ebids revenue - how do I know what they have to spend?

My area of expertise was press advertising, creative and promotional brochure design. I will admit to having little experience of web or social media platforms, but I am fully aware they are used with great success. I have built websites, but have not created anything for years.

My real gripe here is members want to see some evidence of the owners doing something, making some effort to increase awareness, yet what do they see?? ....nowt!

Ebid is invisible ...and sorry to say it, but it will remain so and eventually it will become tarnished and rust away like some of its members! Its already growing a reputation with those who leave - who then say, ebid "...oh yes but nothing ever sells there". This can (and will) be more destructive than had these 'new' members not arrived in the first place!

Before anyone can say what needs to be spent - you need a budget. Above all you need a structured plan, an in depth report on where it would be best to spend any money that may be available.

To give a cost is extremely difficult, media type, size of advert, frequency, Which Publication, National/Local, Digital?, PR supported - there are so many variations. Where would they start UK, US ...It really is how long is a piece of string.

To keep it simple personally I would merely look to put a small display advert in as many publications as I could possibly afford. Get a very basic ‘Dealer Block’ created and use it in every possible type of media that was open to me.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS BRAND AWARENESS !
...and as everyone says, hardly anyone has heard of ebid.

Until that changes you are wasting your time.

I’ve just seen the other two posts - I will comment on those in due course.

Tell you what though just one of those banners at one of the larger boot sales in the south of England would definitely get some attention

You know many sellers and some buyers found eBid thanks to the Branded Tape they had many years back, I was one of them

Nothing ever sells there! yes I see that a lot but the funny thing is lots of those people are more than happy to get one or two sales a week on Depop, Vinted etc and I think that's down to the advertising and word of mouth for those platforms.

The main issue is bringing buyers to the site and the more that shop here the more new sellers will appear but that cannot be done until eBid gets noticed, the only way that will happen is some form of advertising and yes even getting branded tape can be expensive but if you don't spend and take the risk you won't grow!

I have read your posts with interest and the points you make are obviously valid.

However, one questions that has never been raised, is how big do the owners of the site WANT it to grow?

Do they have the budget and the staff to implement the extra work if eBid grows the way you are suggesting, or are they happy to take the occasional £69.99 without having to contend with a massive growth and the work it entails?

Yes, that is very cynical, but requests for advertising have been made time and time again over the years I have been here and, as far as I can remember, have never had the courtesy of a reply from the owners.

If I remember correctly they did reply a few times saying it would cost to much but they did show us a branded tape which was one you had to add water too so that was a flop, I think that's how it went anyway

The crazy thing is if they paid to get say a trial of 500 branded tape rolls or Poly bags made and sold them to us for more they would make that initial cost back and with extra profit and I believe many would buy them or a 1% increase in fee's would cover the cost of branded tape. All that branding floating around on boxes etc would bring in interest fast, the site would gain numbers and grow slowly over time but we have been down this road before

Totally agree: such a small outlay and one which could bring extra sales.
The resistance to any change, however small, is mystifying - and depressing.

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Totally agree: such a small outlay and one which could bring extra sales.
The resistance to any change, however small, is mystifying - and depressing.

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I think as I read it they were looking for a company who would not only print the tape but also despatch it to the buyers when ordered, but I do not think a printing company would want the hassle of despatching the odd order of a reel of tape because at the moment I cannot see anybody wanting to order more than one reel (if any at all) at a time due to low or lack of sales. I would not be buying one at the moment as it would just sit on a shelf collecting dust.

I don't think owners are bothered anyway as must have fingers in more lucrative pies, yes some here are having sales but they could be earning more if they just took notice of suggestions made by members especially on the feedback situation as it looks like nobody sells anything as buyers do not leave feedback these days.
Was watching On the Money with Liam Halligan on GB News today and a local butcher and brewer had a piece about them in Anwick in Northumberland joining forces to promote sales for their product, it had also featured earlier in the morning on the same channel's news. I took notice of this as I have a friend in who lives in Anwick and buys her meat from them. On the Money often promotes small business on the programme by interviewing the owners, free publicity, don't see why they could not get some free publicity there.

True the sales here well for me anyway would not use up much of the tape but then many sellers here also sell on other platforms, so no harm using eBid tape

A printing company would definitely want a large bulk order

BigKidsAttic

“I used to have a Bricks & Mortar shop which I, and not my landlord, had to do advertising for.”

Yes that is the case, but if you were in a shopping mall, or selling at an auctioneers - the Mall or the auctioneer would have to advertise or their shops/auction lots would not sell and owners would pretty quickly move out or stop putting goods in for auction.

“The fee's would eventually and probably increase to the level of Ebay due to extra staff/server use etc..., then as it becomes more complicated as all growing business' do, it will slowly become another Ebay”.

That is an assumption, the fees here are VERY low - which reflects what you get for the cost - Nothing!?

You are correct that not everything sells on Obay... or any site for that matter inc ebid.
I see your selling experience on ebid is 20 years and from what you say you only ever sold a few items on Obay - I’ve experience on both. Yesterday I sold an Hard rock cafe pin. It had been on ebid for a year at £11.95 + post without success, on Obay I got £14.50 + post after 1 month.
I would have been happy to pay ebid another 50p to sell it here - but without some evidence of management giving something back, its never going to happen.

I wish you every success here, you say you’re doing well, but don’t you ever wonder if you could perhaps do better??

theElench

You are a niche seller (as you suggest), you have a very specific market and have an audience that will not find these items just anywhere. There are limited numbers on Obay and you sensibly keep a small presence there - 2 items. You say... “my sales on ebid this year so far, are equal to those on obay and going by the last few years will overtake them by the end of the year”. Well I don’t wish to be critical, but you have over 313 items here so that should not be too difficult to achieve should it???
Again I wish you every luck - and you have some nice items!

You ask me what advertising would cost - I said earlier that its how long a pic of string. But just a very rough guide. If they chose a local regional newspaper and ran a small campaign of maybe 20 insertions over a month. Creating say a basic block with site logo, saying auction site, a clever strapline to say it rivals Obay, between £500-£1000, dependent on the publication and a lot of other factors. Its just a guide.


crafters_corner

“However, one questions that has never been raised, is how big do the owners of the site WANT it to grow”?

... a very valid question. That may be the crux of the matter, happy to tick along with a nice little earner, not too much work involved, enjoy life!

"The resistance to any change, however small, is mystifying - and depressing".

..not mystifying to me crafter, a lot of the resistence comes from 1p sellers, they sell 'very' low priced items more as a hobby and if charges were higher they would be unable to sell these cheap items without incurring a loss.
I've owed ebid 45p in charges for ....I don't know how long! If It was Obay they'd have put me in the stocks for less.

BordersBargains

“they did show us a branded tape which was one you had to add water too so that was a flop”

...correct they did, I remember laughing.

If anyone really wants vinyl branded tape then there are numerous companies produce it. I’ve produced some in the past many years ago for a client, can’t remember who supplied it. However I did a very quick costing yesterday for interest. Probably not the cheapest out there but 720 rolls would cost you £1,512 inc VAT. So thats £1.75 + Vat each roll. I based it on the lowest most sensible qty - smaller qty’s available but a waste of time in my opinion.


Finally one last thing - advertising does not need to cost a penny - it can be free! It just takes some effort on behalf of those who own the company - and quite frankly I don't see any effort being made.
Even the site is now dated and is in need of an urgent overhaul ! But thats another matter.

I know that I was looking at having sticker/label/package sealing type tape.
It was $18/00 a roll and I think that was base on 10 rolls. (can't find my notes)

I understand that if eBid would do this, they would be looking at their members and the quantity would change. But that is still a hard hit, and the odds are that sellers would want everything free with free shipping if they are promoting this site.

For me, I look at this site as my website (for now) that I don't mind promoting my shops (as a matter of fact, other eBid sellers' shops). I only use Pinterest and see that I do get my sales from their and lots of views. Lately, work has kept me from doing more promoting but I still have sales.

Now, I would like to be invited to eBid Pinterest boards so that I can pin my items there. This way, I get sales and eBid gets noticed. I did try to contact them about being invited, but the impression that I got was to follow them. I am not sure if they understood what I wanted was to pin to their boards, besides using my Pinterest promoting account, too.

I don't want to divert the thread by discussing my selling strategy in detail. Perhaps another thread on the "Kitchen Table" board would be a better place to continue that topic? But I feel that I should comment on why I have 300 listings here and only 2 on obay. It isn't to put obay at a disadvantage, they did that themselves. I have time constraints but I devote a roughly equal amount of time to listing on both sites. Currently I usually list one auction each week on both sites and if it doesn't sell, convert it into a RUS / GTC listing so I list about the same number of "new" items on both sites each year.

Obay restricts my auctions to 7 day duration, here I can decide for myself and go for 30 or 40 day duration, so naturally I will have multiple auctions running at any given time on ebid. I would do the same on obay if I could.

Here, my RUS listings are listed in date order and keep their position and visibility in the search results. Obay makes no secret of the fact that as older listings become "stale" (which I interpret to mean that they didn't sell quick enough for obays liking), they are demoted in the search results and get less and less visibility. So here, letting RUS run indefinitely is an advantage. On obay the longer they run the more of a disadvantage they become as ebay also says that having non-selling items constantly being re-listed demotes the visibility of all the sellers' other items. That makes it better to end GTC items after one or two re-lists rather than have them drag newer listings down the visibility table. I would happily let them accumulate on both sites if this wasn't so.

I understand your difficulty and reluctance trying to answer my questions. As you say they are of the "How long is a piece of string" type and with so little info. to start with, impossible to give anything other than extremely rough answers to. But thanks for trying.

For the first time ever, that I can recall, we have a couple of useful numbers to base further discussion on. The 1.5 - 2.5% of sales figure as a starting point for what is considered a prudent amount to set as a Budget.

Presumably your example of Regional Local Newspapers comes from your experience that they are both cost-effective and effective in raising a company's profile. Again, it's a starting point that suggests (to me) that with a bit of strategic planning ebid could mount an on-going campaign with a budget of as little as £500 - £1000 per month?

I said earlier that I'd buy one of your banners if I was still able to do boot-fairs.

Have you thought about a smaller "car sized" version?

I can't do boot-fairs these days but I'd be happy to put something about the size of your picture on the back or side window of my car.

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I said earlier that I'd buy one of your banners if I was still able to do boot-fairs.

Have you thought about a smaller "car sized" version?

I can't do boot-fairs these days but I'd be happy to put something about the size of your picture on the back or side window of my car.

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I have had a 'car sized' version on the back window of my car for years (printed by a regular forum member).
There has not been one enquiry either from a car boot - which I do twice a week - or in a car park.

Isn't that one of the imponderables of advertising? No-one can ever really be sure if their advert is effective or not?

How many people over the years saw your ad. and looked at ebid when they got home? They might even have bought something from you or another seller without ever mentioning the ad. These days, with most people carrying mobiles, they can take a photo or store the info. on it in other ways. The majority of my buyers are making their first purchase on ebid but I have no idea how they found me here. I assume many come from google shopping, I know that a few are the result of a note in an obay parcel.

I didn't know that a car sized version was ever available, perhaps they still are? If not I'd buy one from the OP. From the way advertising works it seems that the advertising industry recognises that one ad. will do little, many ads. spread over a large area works better. Repeating them at intervals works better still.

No offence meant but your one ad. can't influence many people but if they spot the same ad. randomly in several cars and different venues the impact would be greater?

Absolutely true - I have no idea how many people saw my little sticker and subsequently visited the site. :)

Mine was purchased many years ago and has the old colour logo.

I know I have mentioned this before, but why has there never been, say, a 24 hour huge price reduction? I was an active member on eBay's old Books Board, and a member posted eBid's lifetime fee reduction: £14.99!!!!! Many of us swooped on that deal before eBay removed it :D

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Originally Posted by rpmworld

hi all
i do carboots and stalls etc
very few buyers have heard of ebid at ground level
lets change that together

Looking for members interested in buying a 2020 Best Value Online Auction Site Award ebid banner
with or without custom QR code
place in front of table and get ebid and your store noticed
qr code defaults to ebid or custom qr code vinyl sticker added which directs them to your ebid store

estimated pvc banner with delivery £30 plus added qr £38

banner size W150xH50cm with eyelets
just idea nothing finalised yet
price cheaper the more members interested

interested parties message me or if admin want to sub cost with sponsorship etc

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I do the odd boot fair, and just like at a Post Card Fair, I put an eBid leaflet in with the sales I make there. Often I explain what eBid is all about too.

A banner like you propose should be created 'oficially' with correct branding through eBid and sold by them at discounted price to members.

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Isn't that one of the imponderables of advertising? No-one can ever really be sure if their advert is effective or not?

How many people over the years saw your ad. and looked at ebid when they got home? They might even have bought something from you or another seller without ever mentioning the ad. These days, with most people carrying mobiles, they can take a photo or store the info. on it in other ways. The majority of my buyers are making their first purchase on ebid but I have no idea how they found me here. I assume many come from google shopping, I know that a few are the result of a note in an obay parcel.

I didn't know that a car sized version was ever available, perhaps they still are? If not I'd buy one from the OP. From the way advertising works it seems that the advertising industry recognises that one ad. will do little, many ads. spread over a large area works better. Repeating them at intervals works better still.

No offence meant but your one ad. can't influence many people but if they spot the same ad. randomly in several cars and different venues the impact would be greater?

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yes agree its of more impact if every member put one smaller sticker on rear window with ebid logo showing they call it subliminal advertising me thinks
mabe a car sticker is the answer in reality

Put me down for one when you get the preliminaries sorted out, as @20sent said it would have to be agreed to by The Management. The name and logo are probably registered or subject to copyright or similar sort of property rights.

May I suggest that when you have some ready you start a thread on the "Plug Your Auction" board, I think I'm right in saying you can bump your thread every day for as long as they keep selling.

Best of luck, hope to buy one soon.

I'd be up for a small sticker in my car window too...

just an update have contacted support about producing car stickers and packing tape for members and let you know outcome hopefully in the near future.

Fingers crossed you get a "thumbs up" and you'll be back again to let us know how soon we can start ordering them :)

Management have approved idea so have placed a car sticker small order to get things going should be listed for buying next week
price and size TBA but will keep it low to get everyone on board hopefully :)

WOW, that was quick. Will look out for your ad. :)

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WOW, that was quick. Will look out for your ad. :)

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just an update on spec of new car stickers for member's

Low tack Window Stickers

Size: W:180mm x H:60mm
Shape: oval
Material: polypropylene
Supply: rolls
Finish: standard lamination
White Ink: Yes
Reverse Print: Yes
Price:TBA

Low tack stickers are ideal for where they need to be easily removed without residue.
They will also work on any smooth surface - such as glass or Perspex. Stronger –
Sticks better than static cling as it's unaffected by condensation or outdoor weather.

Are these like the tourist destinations flags that I remember from the 60s -- self-sticking triangles, with say "Ramsgate" and seagulls? Doesn't really matter, just trying to visualise how they will be. The important thing is that there'll now be something that we can get behind and use.

very close but they didn't stick well after time these should be better idea if you change your car it wont leave a mess and easier to adjust if you get it wrong lol