What A Mighty God we Serve!

[poppa501]

Thought alll my friends might enjoy this. From C.S.Elliot. Been gone awhile (I get lost easily).

[burgyeb]

Glad you were found Poppa! Thanks for posting.

[burgyeb]

....I saw the LORD seated on a throne, high and exalted, and the train of his robe filled the temple. Above him were seraphs......and they were calling to one another: "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD Almighty; the whole earth is full of his glory." [Isaiah 6:1-3 NIV]

[RatDog]

GOD VS. SCIENCE

'Let me explain the problem science has with religion.'
The atheist Professor of philosophy pauses before his
class and then asks one of his new students to stand.
'You're a Christian, aren't you son?'
'Yes sir,' the student says.
'So you believe in God?'
'Absolutely.'
'Is God good?'
'Sure! God's good.'
'Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?'
'Yes'
'Are you good or evil?'
'The Bible says I'm evil.'
The professor grins knowingly.
'Aha! the Bible!' He Considers for a moment.
'Here's one for you. Let's say there's a
Sick person over here and you can cure him.
You can do it. Would you help him?
Would you try?'
'Yes sir, I would.'
'So you're good...!'
'I wouldn't say that.'
'But why not say that?
You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could.
Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't.'
The student does not answer, so the professor continues.
'He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who
died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him.
How is this Jesus good?
Hmmm?
Can you answer that one?'
The student remains silent.
'No, you can't, can you?' the professor says.
He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk
to give the student time to relax.
'Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?'
'Er..yes,' the student says.
Professor: 'Is Satan good?'
The student doesn't hesitate on this one. 'No.'
'Then where does Satan come from?'
The student falters. 'From God'
'That's right.. God made Satan, didn't he?
Tell me, Son. Is there evil in this world?'
'Yes, sir.'
'Evil's everywhere, isn't it?
And God did make Everything, correct?'
'Yes'
'So who created evil?' The professor continued,
'If God created everything, then God created evil,
since evil exists, and according to the principle
that our works define who we are, then God is evil.'
Again, the student has no answer. 'Is there sickness?
Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things,
do they exist in this World?'
The student squirms on his feet.
'Yes.'
'So who created them?'
The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats
his Question. 'Who created them?' There is still no answer.
Suddenly the Lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the
classroom. The class is mesmerized. 'Tell me,' he continues
onto another student. 'Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?'
The student's voice betrays him and cracks. 'Yes, Professor,I do.'

The old man stops pacing. 'Science says you have five Senses
you use to identify and observe the world around you.
Have you ever seen Jesus?'
'No sir. I've never seen Him.'
'Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?'
'No, sir, I have not.'
'Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt
your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of
Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?'
'No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.'
'Yet you still believe in him?'
'Yes'
'According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable
protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?'
'Nothing,' the student replies. 'I only have my Faith.'
'Yes, faith,' the professor repeats.'
And that is the problem science has with God.
There is no evidence, only faith.'
The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking
a question of his own. 'Professor, is there such thing as heat?'
'yes.'
'And is there such a thing as cold?'
'Yes, son, there's cold too.'
'No sir, there isn't.'
The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested.
The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain.
'You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat,
unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have
anything called 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which
is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such
thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest
-458 degrees.'
'Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits
energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit
energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat.
You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of
heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units
because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just
the absence of it.'
Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom,
sounding like a hammer.
'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?'
'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation. 'What is night if it
isn't darkness?'
'You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence
of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light,
flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing
and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to
define the word.'
'In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make
darkness darker, wouldn't you?'
The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him.
This will be a good semester.
'So what point are you making, young man?'
'Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to
start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.'
The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time.
'Flawed? Can you explain how?'
'You are working on the premise of duality,' the student explains.
'You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God
and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something
finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain
a thought.'
'It uses electricity and magnetism, but it has never seen, much
less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite
of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a
substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the
absence of it.'
'Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they
evolved from a monkey?'
'If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process,
young man, yes, of course I do.'
'Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?'
The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he
realizes where the argument is going.
A very good semester, indeed..
'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at
work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going
endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now
not a scientist, but a preacher?'
The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the
commotion has subsided.
'To continue the point you were making earlier to the other
student, let me give you an example of what I mean.'
The student looks around the room. ' Is there anyone in the
class who has ever seen the professor's brain?' The class
breaks out into laughter.
'Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain,
felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain?
No one appears to have done so.
So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable,
demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain,
with all due respect, sir.'
'So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your
lectures, sir?'
Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student,
his face unreadable.
Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers.
'I guess you'll have to take them on faith.'
'Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists
with life,' the student continues. 'Now, sir, is there such a thing
as evil?'
Now uncertain, the professor responds, 'Of course, there is.
We see it everyday. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity
to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere
in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.'
To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir, or at least
it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God.
It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created
to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil.
Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have
God's love present in his heart.
It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the
darkness that comes when there is no light.'

With that the professor sat down.

[victorfrank]

Many people seem perfectly willing to agree that evolution took place over millions and millions of years, but are unable (as yet) to understand that God could have existed from the dawn of time and started the whole process which we now see as scientific evolution.

[RatDog]

Ecclesiastes 11:5-6
As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all.
In the morning sow thy seed, and in the evening withhold not thine hand: for
thou knowest not whether shall prosper, either this or that, or whether they
both shall be alike good.

[bringinitback4less]

GOD VS. SCIENCE

'Let me explain the problem science has with religion.'
The atheist Professor of philosophy pauses before his
class and then asks one of his new students to stand.
'You're a Christian, aren't you son?'
'Yes sir,' the student says.
'So you believe in God?'
'Absolutely.'
'Is God good?'
'Sure! God's good.'
'Is God all-powerful? Can God do anything?'
'Yes'
'Are you good or evil?'
'The Bible says I'm evil.'
The professor grins knowingly.
'Aha! the Bible!' He Considers for a moment.
'Here's one for you. Let's say there's a
Sick person over here and you can cure him.
You can do it. Would you help him?
Would you try?'
'Yes sir, I would.'
'So you're good...!'
'I wouldn't say that.'
'But why not say that?
You'd help a sick and maimed person if you could.
Most of us would if we could. But God doesn't.'
The student does not answer, so the professor continues.
'He doesn't, does he? My brother was a Christian who
died of cancer, even though he prayed to Jesus to heal him.
How is this Jesus good?
Hmmm?
Can you answer that one?'
The student remains silent.
'No, you can't, can you?' the professor says.
He takes a sip of water from a glass on his desk
to give the student time to relax.
'Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?'
'Er..yes,' the student says.
Professor: 'Is Satan good?'
The student doesn't hesitate on this one. 'No.'
'Then where does Satan come from?'
The student falters. 'From God'
'That's right.. God made Satan, didn't he?
Tell me, Son. Is there evil in this world?'
'Yes, sir.'
'Evil's everywhere, isn't it?
And God did make Everything, correct?'
'Yes'
'So who created evil?' The professor continued,
'If God created everything, then God created evil,
since evil exists, and according to the principle
that our works define who we are, then God is evil.'
Again, the student has no answer. 'Is there sickness?
Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things,
do they exist in this World?'
The student squirms on his feet.
'Yes.'
'So who created them?'
The student does not answer again, so the professor repeats
his Question. 'Who created them?' There is still no answer.
Suddenly the Lecturer breaks away to pace in front of the
classroom. The class is mesmerized. 'Tell me,' he continues
onto another student. 'Do you believe in Jesus Christ, son?'
The student's voice betrays him and cracks. 'Yes, Professor,I do.'

The old man stops pacing. 'Science says you have five Senses
you use to identify and observe the world around you.
Have you ever seen Jesus?'
'No sir. I've never seen Him.'
'Then tell us if you've ever heard your Jesus?'
'No, sir, I have not.'
'Have you ever felt your Jesus, tasted your Jesus or smelt
your Jesus? Have you ever had any sensory perception of
Jesus Christ, or God for that matter?'
'No, sir, I'm afraid I haven't.'
'Yet you still believe in him?'
'Yes'
'According to the rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable
protocol, science says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?'
'Nothing,' the student replies. 'I only have my Faith.'
'Yes, faith,' the professor repeats.'
And that is the problem science has with God.
There is no evidence, only faith.'
The student stands quietly for a moment, before asking
a question of his own. 'Professor, is there such thing as heat?'
'yes.'
'And is there such a thing as cold?'
'Yes, son, there's cold too.'
'No sir, there isn't.'
The professor turns to face the student, obviously interested.
The room suddenly becomes very quiet. The student begins to explain.
'You can have lots of heat, even more heat, super-heat, mega-heat,
unlimited heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat, but we don't have
anything called 'cold'. We can hit up to 458 degrees below zero, which
is no heat, but we can't go any further after that. There is no such
thing as cold; otherwise we would be able to go colder than the lowest
-458 degrees.'
'Every body or object is susceptible to study when it has or transmits
energy, and heat is what makes a body or matter have or transmit
energy. Absolute zero (-458 F) is the total absence of heat.
You see, sir, cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of
heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat we can measure in thermal units
because heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just
the absence of it.'
Silence across the room. A pen drops somewhere in the classroom,
sounding like a hammer.
'What about darkness, professor. Is there such a thing as darkness?'
'Yes,' the professor replies without hesitation. 'What is night if it
isn't darkness?'
'You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is not something; it is the absence
of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light,
flashing light, but if you have no light constantly you have nothing
and it's called darkness, isn't it? That's the meaning we use to
define the word.'
'In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make
darkness darker, wouldn't you?'
The professor begins to smile at the student in front of him.
This will be a good semester.
'So what point are you making, young man?'
'Yes, professor. My point is, your philosophical premise is flawed to
start with, and so your conclusion must also be flawed.'
The professor's face cannot hide his surprise this time.
'Flawed? Can you explain how?'
'You are working on the premise of duality,' the student explains.
'You argue that there is life and then there's death; a good God
and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something
finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain
a thought.'
'It uses electricity and magnetism, but it has never seen, much
less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite
of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a
substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life, just the
absence of it.'
'Now tell me, professor. Do you teach your students that they
evolved from a monkey?'
'If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process,
young man, yes, of course I do.'
'Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?'
The professor begins to shake his head, still smiling, as he
realizes where the argument is going.
A very good semester, indeed..
'Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at
work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going
endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you now
not a scientist, but a preacher?'
The class is in uproar. The student remains silent until the
commotion has subsided.
'To continue the point you were making earlier to the other
student, let me give you an example of what I mean.'
The student looks around the room. ' Is there anyone in the
class who has ever seen the professor's brain?' The class
breaks out into laughter.
'Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain,
felt the professor's brain, touched or smelt the professor's brain?
No one appears to have done so.
So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable,
demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain,
with all due respect, sir.'
'So if science says you have no brain, how can we trust your
lectures, sir?'
Now the room is silent. The professor just stares at the student,
his face unreadable.
Finally, after what seems an eternity, the old man answers.
'I guess you'll have to take them on faith.'
'Now, you accept that there is faith, and, in fact, faith exists
with life,' the student continues. 'Now, sir, is there such a thing
as evil?'
Now uncertain, the professor responds, 'Of course, there is.
We see it everyday. It is in the daily example of man's inhumanity
to man. It is in the multitude of crime and violence everywhere
in the world. These manifestations are nothing else but evil.'
To this the student replied, 'Evil does not exist sir, or at least
it does not exist unto itself. Evil is simply the absence of God.
It is just like darkness and cold, a word that man has created
to describe the absence of God. God did not create evil.
Evil is the result of what happens when man does not have
God's love present in his heart.
It's like the cold that comes when there is no heat or the
darkness that comes when there is no light.'

With that the professor sat down.

Great Post THANKS!!!!!
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. Hebrews 11:1 My daughters memory verse for school this week.

[ropegg]

Prayer is not a "spare wheel" that you pull out when in trouble,
but is a "steering wheel" that directs the right path throughout.

Why is a car's windshield so large & the rear view mirror so small?
Because our PAST is not as important as our FUTURE.
So, Look Ahead and Move on.

Often when we lose hope and think this is the end, GOD smiles from
above and says,
"Relax, sweetheart, it's just a bend, not the end!"

When GOD solves your problems, you have faith in HIS abilities;
when GOD doesn't solve your problems HE has faith in your abilities.


When you pray for others, God listens to you and blesses them,
and sometimes when you are safe and happy,
it means that someone has prayed for you.

Thanks for the post --- sometimes it takes so little to be a huge blessing

[burgyeb]

Thoughts and prayers continue for the individuals, families, and communities devastated by the Colorado flooding.

[burgyeb]

Giving thanks to God for His blessings during 2013. May each and everyone have a happy and prosperous New Year in 2014!