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Thread: 6month returns ebay only? or here too? paypal + ebay ONLY?

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    Default Re: 6month returns ebay only? or here too? paypal + ebay ONLY?

    Quote Originally Posted by sidthelamp View Post
    i dont think i could be termed illegal if it did get as far as court ,
    Is it possible to challenge either a US or Swiss-based Company's policies in a UK Court? Becoming a member of either Company means an acceptance of their policies anyway - and the choice is to accept their constant changes or leave?

    And doesn't the 6 month returns apply to Business Sellers only? (which the OP is not).

    Just asking.....


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    Default Re: 6month returns ebay only? or here too? paypal + ebay ONLY?

    yes if there acting contra- to uk law

    there is a law or several laws that acts to safe guard against unfair conditions i last used them when researching how to beat unfair carparking conditions and i won! i will find the relevant acts after this post


    i did read 6 month thing from PP but i dont remember if it was for just BS or not , again it can be challenged if its deemed unfair and puts some one at a disadvantage
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    Default Re: 6month returns ebay only? or here too? paypal + ebay ONLY?

    Quote Originally Posted by sidthelamp View Post
    yes if there acting contra- to uk law

    there is a law or several laws that acts to safe guard against unfair conditions i last used them when researching how to beat unfair carparking conditions and i won! i will find the relevant acts after this post


    i did read 6 month thing from PP but i dont remember if it was for just BS or not , again it can be challenged if its deemed unfair and puts some one at a disadvantage
    Fascinating. It would be interesting to know just what UK Laws exist to protect Online Sellers/Buyers against International "unfairness" and why such "unfairness" has not yet been challenged.....

    I always think of the Golden Rule when considering such complexities: namely, him with the gold makes the rule.


    I think I'd rather spend my time selling via whatever is available where I want to than contemplating challenging any venue in a Court of Law.

    Each to their own.


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    Default Re: 6month returns ebay only? or here too? paypal + ebay ONLY?

    ok i have a draft copy of my representations i shall copy it , this is what i sent to them quoting the relevant acts
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    Default Re: 6month returns ebay only? or here too? paypal + ebay ONLY?

    requirements of paragraphs 8 and 9 of the protection of freedom act 2012

    terms in the consumer contracts act regulations 1999
    shedule 2-2 (10) (e) section 5 (1)

    A contractual term which has not been individually negotiated shall be regarded as unfair if contary to the requirement of good faith it causes a significant imbalance in the parties rights and obligations arising under the contract to the detriment of the consumer.
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    Default Re: 6month returns ebay only? or here too? paypal + ebay ONLY?

    Quote Originally Posted by cheaver View Post
    Fascinating. It would be interesting to know just what UK Laws exist to protect Online Sellers/Buyers against International "unfairness" and why such "unfairness" has not yet been challenged.....

    I always think of the Golden Rule when considering such complexities: namely, him with the gold makes the rule.


    I think I'd rather spend my time selling via whatever is available where I want to than contemplating challenging any venue in a Court of Law.

    Each to their own.


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    the above is just SOME of english law that could be used eu laws could be used in conduction



    I think I'd rather spend my time selling via whatever is available where I want to than contemplating challenging any venue in a Court of Law.

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    asked the question so i gave some examples, its pointless calling my bluff i never lie and have a keen interest in the law ,

    unfairness is the correct term a contract that biased and unfair can be challenged and deeemed illegal why no one has challanged them i dont know, im mearly agreeing and expanding upon what Golde said
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    Default Re: 6month returns ebay only? or here too? paypal + ebay ONLY?

    Quote Originally Posted by sidthelamp View Post
    requirements of paragraphs 8 and 9 of the protection of freedom act 2012

    terms in the consumer contracts act regulations 1999
    shedule 2-2 (10) (e) section 5 (1)

    A contractual term which has not been individually negotiated shall be regarded as unfair if contary to the requirement of good faith it causes a significant imbalance in the parties rights and obligations arising under the contract to the detriment of the consumer.
    Would this UK legislation be cited against a US or Swiss-based Company, ie in International law? (which is what I thought we were discussing.... )

    I think the issues are far too complex for discussion here to be honest ~ and I for one certainly don't have the necessary legal background either.

    I'll pass on the matter now I think.... and revert brain back to the here and now on eBid.

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    Default Re: 6month returns ebay only? or here too? paypal + ebay ONLY?

    Quote Originally Posted by sidthelamp View Post
    the above is just SOME of english law that could be used eu laws could be used in conduction



    I think I'd rather spend my time selling via whatever is available where I want to than contemplating challenging any venue in a Court of Law.

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    asked the question so i gave some examples, its pointless calling my bluff i never lie and have a keen interest in the law ,

    unfairness is the correct term a contract that biased and unfair can be challenged and deeemed illegal why no one has challanged them i dont know, im mearly agreeing and expanding upon what Golde said
    oopsies Sid, you have completely misunderstood me!!! How you could possibly think I was calling a bluff or accusing of lying defies me!!!

    Crikey!

    Over and out before you set off another bomb!


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    Default Re: 6month returns ebay only? or here too? paypal + ebay ONLY?

    Quote Originally Posted by cheaver View Post
    Would this UK legislation be cited against a US or Swiss-based Company, ie in International law? (which is what I thought we were discussing.... )

    I think the issues are far too complex for discussion here to be honest ~ and I for one certainly don't have the necessary legal background either.

    I'll pass on the matter now I think.... and revert brain back to the here and now on eBid.

    ttfn




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    if a foreign firm is acting illegally in the uk the uk can stop it acting illegally here it cant stop it acting illegally elsewere ,

    why hasent anyone taken on feebay because were a nation of all right jacks you need a consortium of people with money to take on a very big business
    Last edited by sidthelamp; 18th December 2014 at 04:28 PM.
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    Default Re: 6month returns ebay only? or here too? paypal + ebay ONLY?

    Ebay could be challenged in European Court because its practice of charging 10% for postage it doesn't provide is illegal under European competition laws.

    It doesn't apply this charge to all its European clones. Since it is based in Lichtenstein, it is answerable to European Community law.

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